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Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.04 23:04:00 -
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If CCP really decides to go through with this obnoxious full station lock-out, then I really hope they don't decide to reset. Or if they do reset, give a grace period where the systems are reset but the stations don't lock-out yet, for like a week so people who live deep in Amarr-owned systems have a chance to secure their home system so they don't have to move hundreds of ships/assets all across the warzone. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.09 09:24:00 -
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Chimaira wolf wrote:Check your mail Hans fark
Hans needs some wife-time, he'll be back in a day or two, lol. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Vordak Kallager
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Posted - 2012.05.10 07:52:00 -
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Silence iKillYouu wrote:Guys. Sigma once FC'd from his car while he was driving. It was loltastic
One time, Sigma FC'd from twitter. #primary @ShaleeLianne Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Vordak Kallager
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Posted - 2012.05.10 22:38:00 -
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Almity wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Nitalya wrote:just a thought.. most militias have alot of -10 players due to ccps falure to fix neutral remote reps and all the other stupid things that cause fleets to lose sec This is obviously something we're looking into, you're talking to a Logistics pilot here.  My security status drops are almost exclusively because of repairing miltia members. Nitalya wrote:... shouldnt there be a set capitol system in losec that cant be captured so those players are not totaly screwed if there miltia does happen to lose all its space.
There already exists many systems throughout low sec unaffected by the war, which therefore provide a base of operations that cannot be taken away. For example, some of the Amarr militia have already retreated to Egghelende, which connects to the Hed constellation via Siseide and allows them to base a few jumps away from Minmatar sovereign space without ever suffering lockout. First, there was no retreat. We saw the changes our minmatar csm overlord was pushing for and we decided we didn't want to risk being locked out of our stuff. Now with the increase in flip times its not such a worry. Second, Egg is closer to the Minmatar bases than our old base. If anything we advanced! Use a little better judgement in your words Hans. Third, and final, I hoped when I voted for you I was voting for a FW csm voice. Now Im sure I voted for a Minmatar CSM. You can say all you want about how you pushed for fair changes but dev blogs and patch notes say so much more than you. Im really sorry I wasted my vote this year. Next year I won't make the same mistake.
Wow.
You do realize Hans was pro-reset, despite all of us nasty Minmatar telling him it was stupid and against all precedents CCP had set? You do realize Hans doesn't support the full station lock-out? You do realize Hans isn't the puppet-master at CCP HQ? He can only do so much, haha.
Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:46:00 -
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Cearain wrote:
Hans is now saying station lockouts are tolerable.
edit: BTW I do not think hans was biased to minmatar. I just think he has been biased toward ccps and csm 6s plans to make this null sec light. Specifically his advocating Station lockouts and long flip times.
Well, he is definitely pro-long flip times. A lot of people are. It makes sense, at least with the hefty penalty of station lockouts. To my understanding, he was trying to get CCP to reconsider the station lockout but they were dead set on it.
I still think (and a lot of people in Minmatar) that the full lockout is going to be super detrimental to the warzone. I'm personally in favor of denial of station services, but hopefully CCP will be able to get a lot of feedback from the Tranq. server and maybe reconsider the full lockout once it goes live. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.11 04:02:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:Cearain wrote:
Hans is now saying station lockouts are tolerable.
edit: BTW I do not think hans was biased to minmatar. I just think he has been biased toward ccps and csm 6s plans to make this null sec light. Specifically his advocating Station lockouts and long flip times.
Well, he is definitely pro-long flip times. A lot of people are. It makes sense, at least with the hefty penalty of station lockouts. To my understanding, he was trying to get CCP to reconsider the station lockout but they were dead set on it. I still think (and a lot of people in Minmatar) that the full lockout is going to be super detrimental to the warzone. I'm personally in favor of denial of station services, but hopefully CCP will be able to get a lot of feedback from the Tranq. server and maybe reconsider the full lockout once it goes live. Personally I am not in favor of anything that prevents the losing side from putting up a fight. Including station services. Gate fire from stations is fine because that doesn't effect fighting in plexes. Long flip times just favor the side that can get a blob. Shorter flip times would favor hit and run small gangs. The shorter flip times also brought about more pvp in and around plexes. Anyway I wrote a seperate thread on this issue with a more detailed analysis of the pros and cons.
Wouldn't shorter flip times mean that neither of the factions would base in the warzone? Both sides would be at an immense risk to having their system flipped while they slept. I see this as discouraging any kind of lowsec-living lifestyle. At least with the longer, drawn out battles for a system you'd be getting a) a chance to fight for your system without having to set alarms or not sleep and b) you'd have a lot more fighting happening in plex every day as each side tries to 1up the other on system capturing/defending progress.
@San Severina aka Honor Accelerando: why are you still mad that Hans (and the rest of AUTOZ) kicked (and don't like) Missy Lorelai because he a) stole from us and b) tried to blackmail us?
Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.11 04:43:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:You do realize Hans was pro-reset ... Reset is irrelevant, he should have dug his heels in when they said they wanted to implement draconian consequences without first addressing the damn balance .. since he didn't he must have an agenda as of yet undisclosed. Always get this warm and fuzzy feeling (and a small psychotic tick) when a person I supported/voted/promoted turns out to be something entirely different 
... You are insane. /discussion Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.11 22:24:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:
The only thing that needs to play out is which side is going to be the winning side or whether some large alliance, will show how great they are, and decide to grind a losing faction to a winning one so they can profit. .
They won't have the standings to pull it off. But let 'em come. Moar fun.
The most that might happen is some 0.0 entity might come into the warzone and lock it down, but I don't see any major sov-holder ever joining FW due to the aforementioned problem of standings. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.14 01:49:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:SigmaPi wrote:Or the revival, perhaps? Sigma, explain how this leads to a revival? I want some detailed reasoning as to how. Cause All i see is tracks being laid for it to be null sec light. Needing logistic chains and super blobs is where this leads cause we already see that in Null. And they are overlaying Null over FW. Instead of making FW its own experience they are just making it a variant of null sec style game play long run. All i see is your options being limited high sec and null sec variants of play as opposed to the old High, Low, Null. They are taking three different ways to play and distilling it too only two ways to play the game.
RO, I know the "doom and gloom" approach is your trademark, but you blowing this way out of proportion in my opinion.
The only resemblance this has to nullsec is the fact that system occupancy/sovereignty now means something beyond RP reasons.
The Nullsec sov-system, with timed Structure grinds creates an environment where there are alarm-clock ops in which the side with the strongest blob wins.
The Inferno FW sov-system, lacking the timed Structure grinds of Nullsec which are replaced with ship-type limiting, fast-respawning Plexes and the instantly vulnerable Bunker bust, is going to inspire a lot of fast, mobile, multi-system guerrilla warfare.
Your fleet is outnumbered? Split up, plex in adjacent systems, force their fleet to split their forces as well, catch what you can and vanish before the hammer can land.
I see that the Bunker Busting system might engender the Blob, but the fact that it goes immediately vulnerable without having some kind of RF timer will be very helpful to the attacker. I think the Bunker HP should be decreased, though, since I feel most of the fighting for a system will/should take place in the plexing-stage and not in the final Bunker bust.
As for the Station Lockout thing, plunk down a small tower with a Ship Maintenance Array. vOv
It won't be impossible for the Amarr/Caldari to fight back. Sure, it will be tough and it'll require cooperation and effort on their part, but honestly, I think it will be a good catalyst to inspire cooperation/effort on their part, an element they are sorely lacking. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.15 05:59:00 -
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Cearain wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Dirk Smacker wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: 2.) The doomsday predictions will come true, and the war will stagnate, fights will decrease, and I will have demonstrated to CCP that they should have listened to me and pared back the multiplier and not gone with full station docking. Necessary adjustments would than be made to get the fights rolling again.
Hey, you did all you could possibly do before backing down.  I just re-watched a video someone did to support your candidacy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCggF0O8_oI threw up a bit around 4:15. Im a little bothered by the fact I feel that you Hans have retreated from what got you/him elected by many people. A lot of what you are saying now feels like the opposite of what we see in that vid starting from 4:15 Hans. . Well I think its clear CCP' expansion is not at all in line with the ideas he ran on from 3:52 on. But it is not GÇ£hans's expansion.GÇ¥ In fact most of this was probably already done by the time he took office. I don't think we can blame him for this. When he says leave all the empire building resource management blobs and political drama to null sec, well that is what we are getting. Already you see someone saying "the problem" with amarr is we aren't "organized." We have multiple fcs running small gangs. This is supposedly the problem??? In other words we need to all get in one big blobby fleet. And indeed the side that does that will win with these mechanics. The other answer we hear is that we should start recruiting more players. Yep we need bigger and bigger blobs if we want to have fun in this proposed mechanic. What happened to making the mechanics fun for roaming pvpers? The 2 end results are either a large null sec alliance comes and swings the battle, or it just ends in stagnation. Neither option sounds very good based on the ideas we had in mind when we voted hans in. I donGÇÖt think this is hansGÇÖs fault though. I just wish ccp would recognize what the people who voted for hans had in mind.
Well, the problem isn't necessarily the mechanics, its the people. Currently, Minmatar and Gallente are simply bigger and more numerous. There isn't anything CCP can do to change that. I don't think its fair for CCP to limit participation from the bigger side in favor of the little guy; that isn't the way CCP has historically built EVE Online.
And if they did somehow create some restriction on how many people of each militia could be in a system or in a plex at a single time, that system would get horribly abused and be hopelessly ineffective. Regardless of whatever mechanics CCP decides to throw at us, the problem is that we are simply bigger/stronger than the Amarr and likewise for the Gallente. Nothing CCP does will change that, it is up to the Amarr and Caldari themselves to a) recruit more or b) cooperate/coordinate with the #s they have better or c) do nothing, leave the warzone, and let the Minmatar/Gallente to stagnate/atrophy with no targets until the sides are once more at an equilibrium.
That is the way the warzones have always been, Inferno isn't going to change this very fundamental aspect of the war. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
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Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.15 07:59:00 -
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Joanna Ramirez wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:c) do nothing, leave the warzone, and let the Minmatar/Gallente to stagnate/atrophy with no targets until the sides are once more at an equilibrium. Because people leave enviroment where they get four times as much LP for same effort as opposition for more challenging enviroment because ultimately people want pvp and not isk farming --- CCP's train of thought. If you believe that, I might have several decent bridges to sell...
Hmm, you have a point. I don't think the state of the warzone (which side is winning or not) should affect the ISK/LP ratio. Makes it about the ISK, not about the action. Hopefully CCP changes this down the road. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.17 08:01:00 -
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Kuehnelt wrote:Bolded the incorrect bits. You can only ever bring Dramiels to minor plexes, too, and you'll begin to note weird patterns of behavior in your enemies (why are they so rude? Why do they keep leaving?), and you may even get so used to justifying your actions that you settle on a few that sound particularly good to your ear ("if you don't like it, buy your own Loki booster alt"; "This is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTA"). But don't be so ******* surprised every time you're called out about it.
Not sure who you are fighting in the warzone, but LNA rarely uses Boosters or any of the other mechanics you are whining about. The only time, as an FC, I start thinking about Booster alts is when the numbers are hitting 30+ on both sides and you need that extra edge OR, if we are heavily outnumbered or out-Blackbirded (yes, its a thing) then I'm seeing if anyone has a Booster we can toss in command to even the odds. At worst, the most we might do is hopelessly blob you to death, but our Comms are open to all militia members and who am I to throw people out of fleet. vOv
IDK how the Euros run, not too familiar with their fleets. vOv Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.17 21:49:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Andre Vauban wrote:Does anybody know how often the "Control Stats" are updated? There is absolutely no way we could hold the 10+ systems to level V to hit even the first tier of control upgrades. I forsee planned time events to plex and cash out LP stores by dumping LP into systems, farming like crazy, cashing out, and then doing nothing for several days. The other side can easily drain all your upgrades while you sleep. Yes I agree this may be what people do. But it would take allot of lp and therefore a coodinated effort to do this. As far as people draining your lp while you sleep I suppose they would but you gain lp from doing offensive plexes 2xs as fast as they will be able to drain yours. So I'm not sure you would defend it even if you were awake and solely concerned about lp. Anyway now that I know a bit more about how the lp banks work I think this is looking allot better than I initially thought. They definitely put some thought into this I will give them credit there.
DEATH OF FW IMMINENT, CCP ARE IDIOTS, MINMATARAUS BLOBBASAURUS TOO STONK. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.17 22:27:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote: DEATH OF FW IMMINENT, CCP ARE IDIOTS, MINMATARAUS BLOBBASAURUS TOO STONK.
Well that was bizarre. And oddly timed, just as he was beginning to give CCP some credit for coming up with some sensible mechanics. :-P
Oh, crap, yep he did. Sorry, guess I didn't wait to read through the entire post, see all the facts and stuff before I made my snap judgement about what he was saying.
~ironyalert~ Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
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